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July 2024 · 4 minute read

shame it took getting called out to bring it all to light though

I mean, I kinda mentioned the most salient point in the same post as the reads list:

I never really feel comfortable leaving a vote linger over the Sabbath if the day phase is going to end while I'm away, simply because I cannot change that vote based on new, and critical, information that may come up. If my vote ends up being the difference between lynch wagons, or gets exploited because I cannot change it, that hurts town far more than sticking to my hunches.
If I am 100% certain and have concrete evidence that a player is scum, I will leave my vote up over Sabbath, but this is D1, and I've just got a bunch of questions and a headache.

Aside from that, I "got called out" on the day that I couldn't come back and defend myself until potentially after the phase had ended, so...
:p

i don't see enough of a change on Space to say “yea I townread them hard enough to let them scoot by”.

Not sure if this was addressed to me or in general. I've mentioned multiple times at this point that, yes there wasn't a massive change in my thinking regarding Space that would have prompted an "unvote" under most circumstances, but there also wasn't enough of a change in my thoughts or a strong enough conviction to warrant leaving an immutable vote up for 20ish hours of the phase that could be the difference between lynch wagons.

Now, regarding Space...

that's what weirded me out about his readlist. he put himself as scum, then others, but how do we take that seriously?

She claims that she can't take my readslist seriously because I put myself as scum.
First of all, numerous players like Midorikawa, Elieson, and Zexy have done the same thing.
Second of all, I didn't actually say that I was scum in my readslist this time

12. ME: An idiot with a box and a screwdriver. Way too noisy and egotistical. Why is he even in this game? He should go back into retirement.

@Space where and how does the above even remotely come across as saying that I'm scum?

Space’s votes don’t come off as opportunistic for me, I can see how they make sense. Who do you think she should have voted for instead?

It's not a matter of thinking that she should vote for a different slot, necessarily. It's a combination of the innate self-preservation of the vote, combined with her reasoning:

I do agree that it feels wrong to judge a sub based on the previous player, but at the same time, it kind of has to be done. We can't pretend we never saw Fatima's posts

honestly feel this is the best we have to go on at the moment. I feel strange about it given the sub in, but as I said, Fatima's posts can't be unseen

Yes, we can't ignore Fatima's posts, but voting for ExLight at this point in the game, for reasons that he cannot defend himself against...it seems a little scummy.
Especially since, by this point in the game, ExLight had already done plenty, and, IMO, there were, and still are, valid reasons to vote for ExLight.
Space, instead, chooses to vote, basically, for Fatima.
Yes, I know it's the same slot, but I hope you understand what I'm saying.

An interesting thought on ExLight is that he said this fairly early on:

a cop check should prove that but I guess there's the possibility of everyone being paranoid of godfather lol
lie detector on this could work too if anyone has it

I feel like, if Ex is Mafia, there's a very good chance that he is Godfather. He brings up both Cop and Lie Detector as a means of clearing him on N1, and, while the Lie Detector may seem like a bold way for scum to ask to be cleared...but there is also almost certainly a Cop in pretty much every non-Vanilla/Goon only setup, and a Lie Detector in a game this small is probably broken.

It's also interesting that Ex is concerned about his role not flipping properly.

Once you start playing in like seven forums the culture of them start getting mixed up lol
And I mean, better safe than sorry

I can sort of believe this explanation, but something still smells slightly off about it.
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In any case, since the wagons would no longer be tied, and since my case on Space is still the strongest one I have, I'm going to Vote: Space.

If it looks like there is going to be a tie, I will remove or switch my vote toward EoD.

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